1 00:00:11,669 --> 00:00:06,749 for many 2 00:00:15,669 --> 00:00:11,679 1947 was a pivotal point in history 3 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:15,679 but what if the real pivot point was 780 4 00:00:22,310 --> 00:00:19,760 years before that why 5 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:22,320 is the austrolite tektite at the center 6 00:00:27,029 --> 00:00:24,800 of a mystery 7 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:27,039 there is an asteroid bombardment there 8 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:28,000 is no 9 00:00:32,069 --> 00:00:31,039 crater a large craft had been destroyed 10 00:00:35,110 --> 00:00:32,079 in space 11 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:35,120 such conclusive evidence 12 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:37,760 nasa scientists went to great troubles 13 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:40,800 to see if they could replicate this 14 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:44,800 homo sapiens are genetically engineered 15 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:47,920 diverged 780 000 years ago how do we 16 00:00:50,310 --> 00:00:48,559 come about 17 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:50,320 what is a human you know what is our 18 00:00:56,709 --> 00:00:53,520 origin why are we here 19 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:56,719 welcome to skeptico where we explore 20 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:00,399 controversial science and spirituality 21 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:02,480 on this episode we hear from bruce 22 00:01:05,750 --> 00:01:04,720 fenton who along with his research 23 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:05,760 partner and wife 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:08,960 danny are radically rewriting the human 25 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:24,310 [Music] 26 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:26,720 my name's bruce fenton i'm an 27 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:28,560 independent researcher of 28 00:01:34,149 --> 00:01:31,439 an anomalous phenomena ancient mysteries 29 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:34,159 a fairly wide range of topics 30 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:35,840 there are times when there's you know 31 00:01:39,270 --> 00:01:37,840 there's there's no way around it that 32 00:01:42,389 --> 00:01:39,280 you sort of need to 33 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:42,399 visit a location in my case that's meant 34 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:45,280 traveling to egypt they've also in 35 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,000 ecuador 36 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:48,240 you know i visited a site out in the 37 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:49,520 jungle it's 38 00:01:54,310 --> 00:01:52,720 only known through a few people that 39 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:54,320 have been out boots on the ground and 40 00:01:56,709 --> 00:01:55,280 visited the site 41 00:01:58,550 --> 00:01:56,719 you know that's been important to my 42 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:58,560 research too and really 43 00:02:03,190 --> 00:02:01,920 i've been to sites across most of the 44 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:03,200 world i think six of the seven 45 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:13,750 there's a whole rewrite of a 46 00:02:20,309 --> 00:02:17,520 a very widely accepted consensus view 47 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:20,319 on the human origin story and on the 48 00:02:24,790 --> 00:02:22,720 early migrations of the 49 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:24,800 of the certainly the first modern humans 50 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:26,800 and and even before that going to rk 51 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:28,720 communism the work we're doing tackles 52 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:29,280 all of that 53 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:32,400 we're not dealing with a separate set of 54 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:33,200 evidence 55 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:35,280 the foundational material that i'm 56 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:36,560 looking at 57 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:40,000 is the same archaeological finds and 58 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:41,440 genetic studies 59 00:02:52,869 --> 00:02:44,080 as any of the mainstream academics are 60 00:02:59,190 --> 00:02:56,070 one of the the best examples of a 61 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:59,200 a fixed narrative that is widely 62 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:00,080 accepted 63 00:03:03,830 --> 00:03:02,400 throughout not only um like 64 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:03,840 paleoanthropology archaeology 65 00:03:07,350 --> 00:03:04,959 anthropology but 66 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:07,360 but science in general is this the 67 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:08,800 recent out of africa 68 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:12,080 theory which has become very dogmatic 69 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:15,760 the out of africa theory based on 1980s 70 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:18,720 advances in genetic sciences 71 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:21,680 concluded modern humans evolved in and 72 00:03:24,490 --> 00:03:23,120 then migrated out 73 00:03:26,309 --> 00:03:24,500 of africa 74 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:26,319 [Music] 75 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:28,720 this was popularized by documentaries 76 00:03:33,030 --> 00:03:29,760 like this one 77 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:33,040 featuring hollywood actor danny glover 78 00:03:37,270 --> 00:03:36,480 80 000 years ago a tiny group of modern 79 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:37,280 humans 80 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:39,760 braved the terrors of the red sea and 81 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:41,760 left africa forever 82 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:43,599 they cared within the future of the 83 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:44,799 world 84 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:48,239 by 10 000 years ago they had penetrated 85 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:50,239 every corner of the globe 86 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:53,280 now this this is an example of where the 87 00:03:56,309 --> 00:03:55,360 evidence has shifted but the narrative 88 00:03:58,789 --> 00:03:56,319 hasn't because 89 00:04:00,070 --> 00:03:58,799 we now have of course genetic studies 90 00:04:02,550 --> 00:04:00,080 that are coming into play 91 00:04:04,149 --> 00:04:02,560 you know an entire huge field now 92 00:04:07,429 --> 00:04:04,159 genomic sciences that 93 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:07,439 really didn't exist when the when the 94 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:07,920 model 95 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:11,360 first emerged pick any article on the 96 00:04:14,789 --> 00:04:12,560 topic of 97 00:04:16,229 --> 00:04:14,799 the migrations or expansions of the 98 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:16,239 first eurasian people 99 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:17,600 and you'll find it will start off with 100 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:20,000 that we know that around about 101 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:22,000 fifty thousand or sixty thousand or 102 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:23,759 seventy thousand years ago 103 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:25,919 a group of africans come out of you know 104 00:04:29,510 --> 00:04:27,520 used out east africa 105 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:29,520 migrate into eurasia and go on to 106 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:31,120 populate the continent 107 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:34,320 finally they reach australia and america 108 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:35,840 and so on there's obviously an issue 109 00:04:39,749 --> 00:04:37,919 here because there's too many dates 110 00:04:41,670 --> 00:04:39,759 for the same event i think that what we 111 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:41,680 have here in fact is very strong 112 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:42,320 evidence 113 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:45,280 for two distinct events a movement of 114 00:04:49,030 --> 00:04:46,000 people going 115 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:49,040 into africa 70 000 years ago 116 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:51,520 which is validated both by genetic 117 00:04:56,950 --> 00:04:54,080 information we have the appearance of 118 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:56,960 new haplogroups we have the l3 119 00:05:01,830 --> 00:04:58,960 haplogroup which is mitochondrial 120 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:01,840 we also have ct which is a y-chromosomal 121 00:05:05,270 --> 00:05:02,560 haplogroup 122 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:05,280 which both appear around 70 000 years 123 00:05:08,469 --> 00:05:05,840 ago 124 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:08,479 in the genome of modern africans now 125 00:05:11,909 --> 00:05:09,039 this is 126 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:11,919 studies not taken from ancient dna this 127 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:12,639 is taken from 128 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:15,840 modern dna right now what is happening 129 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:18,000 in the world 70 000 years ago well 130 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:20,479 73 000 years ago the lake toba super 131 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:21,919 volcano has erupted 132 00:05:26,790 --> 00:05:24,160 and is in the process of devastating the 133 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:26,800 entire northern hemisphere of our planet 134 00:05:29,990 --> 00:05:28,639 so what is that going to lead to is 135 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:30,000 going to lead to forced 136 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:32,479 migrations and if you're lucky enough to 137 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:34,320 be somewhere in western eurasia 138 00:05:37,830 --> 00:05:35,759 particularly the middle east 139 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:37,840 you have the opportunity to cross into 140 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:40,160 africa and into safe zones in 141 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:41,840 sub-equatorial africa 142 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:44,320 via the babel mandab straits and this is 143 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:45,840 precisely where we see 144 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:48,080 the emergence of these haplogroups right 145 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:49,680 there where we would expect these 146 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,000 climate migrants to appear 147 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:54,240 what else do we find we find the first 148 00:05:58,070 --> 00:05:55,360 appearance of 149 00:06:00,150 --> 00:05:58,080 arrowheads and ranged weapons an 150 00:06:02,469 --> 00:06:00,160 incredible leap forward in technology 151 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:02,479 which happens to appear 70 000 years ago 152 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:03,600 in east africa 153 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:04,960 exactly where we have these new 154 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:07,440 haplogroups indeed we also have the 155 00:06:10,150 --> 00:06:08,080 first 156 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:10,160 complex mobile art these are some of 157 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:11,360 these 158 00:06:18,830 --> 00:06:13,280 carved stone pieces that have become 159 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,430 elsewhere 160 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:25,510 there's very obviously a cultural shift 161 00:06:30,629 --> 00:06:27,360 underway which fits 162 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:30,639 diffusion rather than sudden emergence 163 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:33,360 this is precisely what the genetic data 164 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:35,360 is telling us that a new paper has just 165 00:06:39,189 --> 00:06:36,639 come out in fact 166 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:39,199 about a week ago and they have found 167 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:40,000 that the 168 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:42,880 y chromosomal lineages of all eurasian 169 00:06:46,629 --> 00:06:43,759 people 170 00:06:48,070 --> 00:06:46,639 points to a migration out of southeast 171 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:48,080 asia and east asia 172 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:51,199 55 000 years ago where's africa 173 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:53,039 in that story right this is this is 174 00:06:57,909 --> 00:06:54,560 hugely problematic 175 00:07:01,589 --> 00:06:57,919 a 2018 paper looking at 176 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:01,599 the the mtdna the mitochondrial lineages 177 00:07:05,830 --> 00:07:04,560 they found that the oldest variants of 178 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:05,840 haplogroups 179 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:07,360 m and n which are considered 180 00:07:10,309 --> 00:07:09,440 foundational to all modern eurasian 181 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:10,319 people 182 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:12,240 those turn out to be in aboriginal 183 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:13,440 australians 184 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:15,680 right nowhere near the middle east 185 00:07:19,589 --> 00:07:17,280 nowhere near where they think that this 186 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:19,599 these new haplogroups are appearing you 187 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:20,880 know in east africa in the middle east 188 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:22,240 so you've now got the 189 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:25,599 female and male lineages seeming to 190 00:07:29,589 --> 00:07:26,319 arise 191 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:29,599 somewhere in oceania or east asia 192 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:33,280 right now this runs absolutely counter 193 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:35,520 to the idea that we have a migration 194 00:07:39,189 --> 00:07:37,280 coming out of east africa so 195 00:07:41,189 --> 00:07:39,199 why is it that this hasn't you know 196 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:41,199 radically changed the story 197 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:43,199 it's not being allowed to filter through 198 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,240 to the public 199 00:07:48,150 --> 00:07:46,800 it's certainly being in some respects 200 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:48,160 suppressed they having 201 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:50,160 had an article on this subject published 202 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:51,840 in forbes magazine 203 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:55,360 online and within hours senior editors 204 00:07:58,710 --> 00:07:57,440 spiking the story and having it removed 205 00:08:02,230 --> 00:07:58,720 with no explanation 206 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:02,240 because it it questioned a fundamental 207 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:05,120 dogma in science and it was just seen as 208 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:06,319 unacceptable 209 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:08,160 we look at the aboriginal australians a 210 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:10,160 worldview we find that you know they're 211 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:12,000 dealing with extended consciousness 212 00:08:16,309 --> 00:08:14,080 as being you know a matter of fact that 213 00:08:19,589 --> 00:08:16,319 you know that we are more than simply 214 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:19,599 our body and that our history is more 215 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:20,160 than 216 00:08:26,869 --> 00:08:23,520 you know a pile of stone tools i've had 217 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:26,879 my own very strange experiences that 218 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:28,319 that in some cases have provided 219 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:30,240 information which has prompted me to 220 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:31,840 look into areas of 221 00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:35,120 both human history and cognitive 222 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:37,680 abilities that are not well understood 223 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:39,519 you know this has come about through a 224 00:08:42,310 --> 00:08:41,519 series of very strange things have 225 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:42,320 happened to me 226 00:08:45,670 --> 00:08:45,120 shamanic experience you know a journey 227 00:08:47,509 --> 00:08:45,680 in an 228 00:08:49,509 --> 00:08:47,519 altered state of consciousness i didn't 229 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:49,519 have a context for this but this 230 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:51,440 in some respects i would say began a 231 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:52,880 path for me personally 232 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:56,240 i connected with a a very well respected 233 00:08:59,110 --> 00:08:57,839 expert in that field dr michael 234 00:09:00,870 --> 00:08:59,120 carmichael who's 235 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:00,880 considered one of the i suppose one of 236 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:03,920 the the leading thinkers really in 237 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:06,640 in shamanic states and older states of 238 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:08,000 consciousness and you know he he 239 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:09,680 was sort of kind enough to take me under 240 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:10,720 his wing a bit and share a lot of 241 00:09:15,269 --> 00:09:12,000 information with me about 242 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:15,279 this field uh and really i i think 243 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:18,800 starred me down that path of looking at 244 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:21,279 what does this mean for us as as human 245 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:22,560 beings that we can have these 246 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:23,440 experiences 247 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:24,880 and that you know perhaps we can access 248 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:27,360 information about not only ourselves but 249 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:28,160 history 250 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:30,320 you know perhaps lost elements of our 251 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:31,839 story that these exist 252 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:35,120 in some intangible field or you know 253 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:36,080 other place 254 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:38,480 that we can access i was taken to a site 255 00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:39,600 called 256 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:42,880 abu ghuram which is again is usually off 257 00:09:47,269 --> 00:09:44,720 limits to tourists 258 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:47,279 now at this very ancient site which is 259 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:49,040 rumored to be one of the oldest 260 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:52,160 sites in the in the giza you know a 261 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:53,200 greater 262 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:56,240 collection of ancient sites i had a very 263 00:10:00,150 --> 00:09:58,080 strange experience 264 00:10:01,910 --> 00:10:00,160 looking out across the site and suddenly 265 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:01,920 feeling sort of compelled 266 00:10:06,069 --> 00:10:04,800 to look up at this star cluster known as 267 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:06,079 the pleiades 268 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:09,200 which in itself is not a particularly 269 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:11,920 glaring set of stars they're quite faint 270 00:10:14,069 --> 00:10:12,320 but 271 00:10:15,670 --> 00:10:14,079 i just felt really compelled to look up 272 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:15,680 at them as they were rising above this 273 00:10:19,590 --> 00:10:16,880 temple side 274 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:19,600 and had this bizarre sense of being in 275 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:20,640 communion 276 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:23,600 with some intelligence linked with this 277 00:10:26,870 --> 00:10:24,800 star cluster 278 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:26,880 and it also turned out that a good 279 00:10:30,710 --> 00:10:29,440 friend of mine richard gabrielle who's a 280 00:10:33,670 --> 00:10:30,720 researcher that 281 00:10:35,430 --> 00:10:33,680 tackles anomalous sights in egypt he 282 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:35,440 just happened to be going out 283 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:38,480 to cairo uh during the same period 284 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:41,040 that i was also you know traveling out 285 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:42,240 there and we hadn't 286 00:10:46,069 --> 00:10:45,360 planned this at all together and when we 287 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:46,079 sort of realized 288 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:48,160 this you know we arranged like i could 289 00:10:52,069 --> 00:10:49,839 meet up with him because he has 290 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:52,079 a really a great knowledge of the giza 291 00:10:55,509 --> 00:10:53,120 plateau 292 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:55,519 the the important sites i was only able 293 00:11:00,550 --> 00:10:58,079 to go to the temple side of abu ghraib 294 00:11:02,389 --> 00:11:00,560 because of richard's knowledge now if i 295 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:02,399 had gone at any other time 296 00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:04,079 i probably would have not even known 297 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:05,600 this place existed 298 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:06,880 right so i had initially the 299 00:11:09,750 --> 00:11:08,640 synchronicity that you know there's the 300 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:09,760 right person 301 00:11:14,069 --> 00:11:12,240 just happens to be there that is able to 302 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:14,079 take me to the right place 303 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:15,760 you know and it's just as i've 304 00:11:18,949 --> 00:11:17,120 reconnected with 305 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:18,959 the person who will go on to be not only 306 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:21,200 my wife but very important to my 307 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:22,720 research journey and this 308 00:11:26,710 --> 00:11:25,120 story that we are obviously sharing now 309 00:11:29,350 --> 00:11:26,720 this has all come about 310 00:11:30,870 --> 00:11:29,360 quite spontaneously and on top of that 311 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:30,880 then i find myself 312 00:11:34,470 --> 00:11:33,920 you know without any obvious motivation 313 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:34,480 you know 314 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:37,120 push to have a kind of psychical 315 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:38,240 communion 316 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:40,320 with some other intelligence that i i 317 00:11:44,389 --> 00:11:42,399 can't tangibly see or even 318 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:44,399 detect you know in this flow of 319 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:45,600 strangeness this 320 00:11:52,949 --> 00:11:49,440 then leads on to later events now 321 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:52,959 we skip forward about two months 322 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:55,760 i find myself now i've gone on from 323 00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:57,600 egypt to england to spain 324 00:12:00,949 --> 00:11:59,760 and from spain to ecuador with with 325 00:12:03,430 --> 00:12:00,959 daniela to 326 00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:03,440 a family home that her extended family 327 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:04,320 has out there 328 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:07,519 it turns out that there is this person 329 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:08,480 who has just come 330 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:11,600 back from an expedition into the jungle 331 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:14,160 now out of all the people in ecuador who 332 00:12:17,190 --> 00:12:14,800 would end up 333 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:17,200 in a room with someone just back from a 334 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:19,120 very strange mysterious ancient site in 335 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:19,920 the jungle 336 00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:21,920 there's me you know a guy who spent 337 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:24,480 decades researching ancient mysteries 338 00:12:27,910 --> 00:12:25,600 and it's probably the only 339 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:27,920 english-speaking researcher 340 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:30,639 in that field for like hundreds of if 341 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:32,480 not thousands of miles around 342 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:34,320 you know and it's and this guy's just 343 00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:36,000 come back and he's telling us 344 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:38,160 we found these giant hammers and we 345 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:39,839 found these these strange 346 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:41,760 huge megalithic blocks and i'm sitting 347 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:44,399 there thinking what are the chances that 348 00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:46,560 within a couple of weeks of arriving in 349 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:48,639 ecuador from egypt you know and 350 00:12:52,629 --> 00:12:50,560 these other megalithic sites that are 351 00:12:55,590 --> 00:12:52,639 anomalous you know that here i am 352 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:55,600 being told about yet another set of you 353 00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:57,920 know fantastical constructions of the 354 00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:58,959 ancient world that 355 00:13:02,389 --> 00:13:00,560 are just not fitting into the 356 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:02,399 conventional story at all 357 00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:12,629 the flow just seems to continue and if 358 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:13,680 anything accelerate 359 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:15,519 a connection to a people known as the 360 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:16,720 lagoa santa 361 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:20,000 it turns out that the lagos santa are in 362 00:13:24,790 --> 00:13:21,600 this area they're up in 363 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:24,800 parts of ecuador including banos to 364 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:27,040 aguasanta which is the nearest town to 365 00:13:29,829 --> 00:13:27,760 this 366 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:29,839 lost megalithic site in the yanganatas 367 00:13:33,829 --> 00:13:31,839 now who are they lagoa santa 368 00:13:35,750 --> 00:13:33,839 that's a really important area here 369 00:13:39,189 --> 00:13:35,760 because these are a 370 00:13:41,189 --> 00:13:39,199 strange population of early americans 371 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:41,199 the first americans really down in 372 00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:42,240 brazil 373 00:13:45,509 --> 00:13:44,399 at a site called lagoa santa and areas 374 00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:45,519 nearby 375 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:47,279 who seem to have entered the continent 376 00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:49,920 around 50 000 years ago based on some of 377 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:50,959 the 378 00:13:57,350 --> 00:13:55,680 carbon dating that's been done down in 379 00:13:59,189 --> 00:13:57,360 brazil 380 00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:59,199 what is particularly strange is that 381 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:01,519 they have what's called the australoid 382 00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:03,519 skull type well basically they seem to 383 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:05,519 be australian aboriginals in their 384 00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:07,360 morphology 385 00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:10,639 this is very unlike the fines of clovis 386 00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:11,279 remains 387 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:12,959 who are seen here as an asiatic 388 00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:15,360 population that enters the americas from 389 00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:16,160 the north 390 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:19,360 around about 15 000 years ago now anyone 391 00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:20,720 familiar with the 392 00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:24,079 the current consensus dogma really 393 00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:26,800 on the first modern humans in the 394 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:27,920 americas 395 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:31,519 will know that clovis first has taken a 396 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:33,040 long time to die 397 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:35,040 the idea that thirteen thousand years 398 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:37,600 ago the first modern humans arrived 399 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:39,360 across beringia and into 400 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:42,160 the northern areas of north america and 401 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:43,040 that they moved 402 00:14:46,870 --> 00:14:45,360 slowly down into the greater part of the 403 00:14:48,790 --> 00:14:46,880 continent and that this is a narrative 404 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:48,800 that's only recently been defroned 405 00:14:52,629 --> 00:14:50,000 despite the fact 406 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:52,639 evidence existed for a very long time 407 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:53,279 that 408 00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:57,600 were in the americas much earlier for 409 00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:58,560 example 410 00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:01,440 we have the these the bluefish caves 411 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:02,240 where 412 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:05,120 there was dates going back 20 000 years 413 00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:06,480 up in the far north 414 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:08,720 now that in itself should have been a 415 00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:09,760 rewrite of 416 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:11,600 of the narrative but when you go down to 417 00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:13,279 the south and go down into brazil and 418 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:15,680 you have these lagoa santa where 419 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:17,839 archaeologists are doing really solid 420 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:19,680 work you know they're finding dates that 421 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:20,320 push back 422 00:15:25,269 --> 00:15:24,720 20 30 40 000 even 50 000 years ago based 423 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:25,279 on 424 00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:28,399 a wide range of evidence types 425 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:30,800 you know you have cave sites we have art 426 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:31,680 we have 427 00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:37,040 archaeology down in brazil 428 00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:38,959 that have been studied not only by the 429 00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:40,639 local brazilian academics 430 00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:43,600 but teams from france from the when the 431 00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:45,519 major museums in france have been out 432 00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:47,759 there they've dated a site at over 20 433 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:48,720 000 years 434 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:51,040 this is solid academic work that's being 435 00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:51,839 done and yet 436 00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:53,519 it's also considered hugely 437 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:55,600 controversial because it pushes the 438 00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:56,720 narrative 439 00:16:01,590 --> 00:15:58,639 so far back that we're not just going a 440 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:01,600 bit beyond clovis at you know 13 to 15 441 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:02,639 000 years 442 00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:04,880 we're going uncomfortably back you know 443 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:06,880 tens of thousands of years earlier 444 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:08,480 suggesting that modern humans have been 445 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,240 in the americas from 446 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:12,720 around the same time as the eurasian 447 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:13,600 expansion 448 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:17,360 55 000 years ago this is a 449 00:16:21,910 --> 00:16:20,399 huge hot potato which a lot of the 450 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:21,920 academics don't want to touch 451 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:23,279 particularly north american 452 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:25,920 and european academics who have been 453 00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:27,360 pushing back against this 454 00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:30,079 and essentially ignoring the studies 455 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:30,560 down 456 00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:56,470 [Music] 457 00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:58,310 obviously the lagoa santa being 458 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,480 aboriginal australian type people takes 459 00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:02,320 us back to australia 460 00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:05,360 and the idea that there is a a story in 461 00:17:11,189 --> 00:17:07,839 that region which is not being told 462 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:11,199 now it's not just one which modifies the 463 00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:13,280 out of africa narrative but i would say 464 00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:14,880 it goes much deeper 465 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:18,000 back in 2013 i'd connected with 466 00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:20,880 some australian researchers who had also 467 00:17:23,189 --> 00:17:21,919 been looking at this 468 00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:23,199 you know the idea that perhaps there was 469 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:25,199 an out of australia theory 470 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:26,720 you know in the works because the 471 00:17:29,909 --> 00:17:28,240 aboriginal people 472 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:29,919 say this in their own law they say you 473 00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:31,360 know we were the first there were no 474 00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:32,000 others before 475 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:34,080 us all others have come out of here now 476 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:37,600 that's absolutely enshrined in their law 477 00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:40,080 these guys connected me into a lady 478 00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:42,640 there who had information suggested that 479 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:45,120 not only did the modern humans arise 480 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:46,400 there their origins went all the way 481 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:47,200 back to 482 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,960 australia in the very distant past 483 00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:50,880 hundreds of thousands of years ago 484 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,840 and that there had been an otherworldly 485 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,760 connection as the aboriginals suggest in 486 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:57,520 their their creation spirits these 487 00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:58,400 beings that 488 00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,000 walked the land in the beginning in the 489 00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:01,919 dream time who helped create 490 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:05,039 humans that there was perhaps scientific 491 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:08,240 evidence that would support this 492 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:10,240 this led to my book ancient aliens in 493 00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:11,280 australia 494 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:14,799 in 2013 and that really 495 00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:17,440 situated into a whole new area of 496 00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:19,679 research the possibility that there was 497 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:22,320 direct evidence for an alien 498 00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:23,280 intervention 499 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:25,600 in human evolution hundreds of thousands 500 00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:35,190 i was quite aware that there is an 501 00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:36,400 intelligence 502 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:39,280 at work behind the scenes of my research 503 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:39,600 and 504 00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:42,080 behind the scenes of humanity in general 505 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:44,080 that is involved in the story of our 506 00:18:47,510 --> 00:18:44,960 evolution 507 00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:47,520 now when i connected with the australian 508 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:49,840 researchers that collaborated on 509 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:52,880 my book ancient aliens in australia they 510 00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:53,760 also 511 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:56,720 led me to another connection which was a 512 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:58,240 lady called valerie barrow who had a 513 00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:00,000 book called altringa 514 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:02,480 when the first ancestors were created in 515 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:03,520 which 516 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:07,280 it describes an ancient contact event 517 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,760 which is involved were involved in the 518 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:11,520 human evolutionary story that there's a 519 00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:12,240 contact 520 00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:14,480 that leads to changes in the early 521 00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:15,280 humans 522 00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:18,880 and a new species homo sapiens now 523 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:20,240 for most people that just seem like such 524 00:19:23,669 --> 00:19:21,919 an extraordinarily big leap 525 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,679 but if you take it in the context of 526 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:25,280 that i'm having 527 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,360 events in my personal life and with my 528 00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:29,440 wife contact type experiences 529 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:32,960 with an intelligence that is basically 530 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:35,200 informing us that it's involved in the 531 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:36,320 human story 532 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:40,240 that it's over time has modified 533 00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:42,000 certain populations that has done these 534 00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:44,240 things and now i'm finding this same 535 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:46,080 story is coming to me through 536 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:47,600 these australian researchers we're 537 00:19:51,909 --> 00:19:49,360 working with and you know 538 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:51,919 other people they know who have a 539 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,440 similar narrative so 540 00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:55,280 for me it was like aha you know the 541 00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:56,960 chain of synchronicity 542 00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:58,799 was flowing onward through the people we 543 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,160 were making contact with 544 00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:02,640 we're finding elements of validation for 545 00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:04,320 personal experiences we were going 546 00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:04,799 through 547 00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,919 so we ended up having to 548 00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:09,840 really look seriously at the idea that 549 00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:12,640 there is a another player in this story 550 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:14,559 that is not appearing in academic 551 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:16,320 literature is not in the 552 00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:18,720 national geographic documentaries 553 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,159 because it's considered 554 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,960 too strange too anomalous too socially 555 00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,080 unacceptable 556 00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:26,640 and would require the modification not 557 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:28,159 only of this story 558 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:30,799 but of the way we think about humanity 559 00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:31,679 our cultures 560 00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:34,640 our religious structures an absolute 561 00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:35,600 fundamental 562 00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:47,669 valerie came into contact with an 563 00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:48,880 artifact 564 00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:51,120 in a very peculiar way she had a house 565 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:52,559 that was called al charinga 566 00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:54,240 which is an aboriginal term which 567 00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:56,159 actually refers to the first time the 568 00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:56,960 dream time 569 00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:00,320 was known as the al charinga time now 570 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:02,720 this is another synchronicity because 571 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:03,840 somebody 572 00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:06,799 heard about her house having this name 573 00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:08,559 they were in possession of a 574 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:11,200 a sacred artefact of the aboriginal 575 00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:12,320 people and now 576 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:14,640 this person took it as a kind of a sign 577 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,080 that this was where the object could 578 00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:18,799 safely be kept temporarily so 579 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:20,960 she says yes fine i'll look after this 580 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:22,960 this object which is 581 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,960 it's wrapped up in paperback so she 582 00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:27,120 doesn't directly see it she puts it in a 583 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:28,799 shoebox puts it away 584 00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,720 respectfully doesn't take it out of its 585 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:32,159 bindings which is 586 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:33,600 the right thing to do you know it's 587 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,280 considered wrong to look on one of these 588 00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:36,799 objects it's actually called a charinga 589 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:38,400 now the aboriginal people say you 590 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,480 shouldn't if you're not initiated 591 00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:42,480 you shouldn't really you know openly 592 00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,000 hold and look at one so she does 593 00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:46,240 the right thing with it but what happens 594 00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:47,600 next is is totally 595 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,640 bizarre she finds that there is a voice 596 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:52,640 making contact with her in in her head 597 00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,960 in a direct voice to skull 598 00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:56,480 type way if we think of in terms of 599 00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:58,000 technologies that we understand 600 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:01,039 now that that there is a communication 601 00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:01,520 which 602 00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:04,880 is not auditory for everyone around her 603 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:06,880 but that she can hear it as a voice and 604 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,720 that starts telling her that there is a 605 00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:10,000 consciousness 606 00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:13,039 of a star person connected with this 607 00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,000 artifact 608 00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:16,559 and that is wanting to share a lost 609 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,600 history 610 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:20,080 of this planet and it explains that it 611 00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:21,520 it has influenced 612 00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:24,480 the consciousness of people to travel 613 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,000 around australia 614 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:28,080 to come to her home and then it says 615 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:30,000 it's quite capable of going wherever it 616 00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,640 wants 617 00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:33,039 because it will simply modify the 618 00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:33,919 thinking 619 00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:36,159 of the people it's in contact with so if 620 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:37,919 anyone's how does this object come to be 621 00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,320 that 622 00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:40,720 it's through its own choosing it appears 623 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:41,600 now 624 00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:43,600 the narrative it shares is of it's just 625 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:45,120 amazing you know the idea that there has 626 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:45,840 been a 627 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:48,159 a visitation hundreds of thousands of 628 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,120 years ago 629 00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,720 and that these artifacts some of these 630 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,159 objects have been left 631 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:55,039 in australia we can assume some kind of 632 00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:56,080 monitoring 633 00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:59,280 recording communication of devices 634 00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,600 that are connected to this visitation 635 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:03,919 explains to her that there's been a huge 636 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,320 ship 637 00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,720 has arrived here has been in orbit was 638 00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:08,080 destroyed in an event 639 00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:10,400 an attack again hundreds of thousands of 640 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:11,440 years ago 641 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,640 debris rained down across our planet it 642 00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:16,320 then goes on to explain that 643 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:19,039 there is a series of very crucial events 644 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:21,120 here there is an asteroid bombardment 645 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,000 five years later 646 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:24,320 that is engineered by an 647 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,760 extraterrestrial race 648 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:27,760 that they choose to bombard this planet 649 00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:29,200 and shortly after this 650 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:32,720 the first ancestor of homo sapiens 651 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:35,760 are genetically engineered from a 652 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:36,640 existing 653 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,350 now of course there's a much bigger 654 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:47,760 story here and credit to valerie you 655 00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:48,559 know she 656 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,720 details all of that in her book which 657 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:52,400 people can read 658 00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:54,799 but my interest was in these major 659 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,000 events because 660 00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:58,640 i felt there was the potential to be 661 00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,600 signatures 662 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:01,520 in the geological records and in you 663 00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,880 know academic papers 664 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,799 that i could go away and look for 665 00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:06,720 evidence of this 666 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:09,440 suddenly i had an understanding of a 667 00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:10,000 whole 668 00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:12,000 series of synchronous events in my life 669 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,600 going back years 670 00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:15,760 now go all the way back to the events in 671 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:18,559 around 2002 when i had this shamanic 672 00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:19,840 journey experience 673 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:22,559 where i had seen you know an alien craft 674 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:24,080 basically coming in towards the earth 675 00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:25,840 and the sense that a large craft had 676 00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:28,159 been destroyed in space that there were 677 00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:29,919 a few survivors coming down to the 678 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:31,760 planet now at the time i had no 679 00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:34,159 i had no framework for that experience 680 00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:35,760 suddenly there was a book telling me 681 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,799 that a huge 682 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:39,120 spaceship had been destroyed in orbit 683 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:40,880 that beings 684 00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,520 wearing blue outfits which again i saw 685 00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:45,520 being you know in a blue outfit in fact 686 00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:48,960 i experienced being this entity 687 00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,480 in a craft a tall being in a tight blue 688 00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:54,480 outfit and i'm reading about these tall 689 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,679 beings in these 690 00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:58,480 tight blue outfits i was in tears the 691 00:25:01,750 --> 00:24:59,200 emotional 692 00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:01,760 impact was immense and then of course 693 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,279 i'm understanding now 694 00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:05,760 why in egypt i'm compelled to look up at 695 00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,799 the pleiades 696 00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:08,640 because they're telling us this craft 697 00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:11,360 has jumped through some kind of wormhole 698 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,840 located in the pleiades just before it 699 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:15,679 arrives to earth 700 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,720 this was a story that i needed to really 701 00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,320 delve into to see 702 00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,559 you know could this be validated for me 703 00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:24,480 personally it felt true 704 00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:27,279 but i knew that for other people to see 705 00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:29,679 this as a story worth hearing 706 00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,549 how do we come about you know what are 707 00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:40,400 we what is a human you know what is our 708 00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,960 origin 709 00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:42,799 why are we here you know these major 710 00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:44,960 questions that typically have been dealt 711 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:45,440 with 712 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:48,720 either by religions in a you know 713 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:51,840 theological context of god's mysterious 714 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:53,120 workings on earth 715 00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,000 or by the academics who simply give us 716 00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,080 this story of you know abiogenesis 717 00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:00,480 life emerging from a rock pool somewhere 718 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:02,960 and you know a pointless series of 719 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,080 of chance events leading to humans with 720 00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:09,200 you know blind evolutionary forces at 721 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,520 work 722 00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:10,960 and these are the two major narratives 723 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:12,559 and hang on a minute you know there's a 724 00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:13,840 lot of people out there who've sensed 725 00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:14,559 that 726 00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,240 neither of these are telling us the 727 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:18,080 accurate story you know they may have 728 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:18,960 parts right 729 00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,120 but there's something obviously not 730 00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:23,039 right about this story 731 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,640 and i realized that there was the 732 00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,360 opportunity here to perhaps 733 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,159 validate this this narrative in such a 734 00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:31,840 way as to 735 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:34,320 to give other people answers and so i 736 00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:35,200 looked at the 737 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:38,720 the core claims within this 738 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,480 this transmission let's call it from 739 00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:42,320 this artifact 740 00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:47,039 seen as a bracewell probe for anyone 741 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,080 who's familiar with 742 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,720 the idea in in seti science that a 743 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:52,640 bracewell probe essentially is an alien 744 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:54,640 artifact that could be left on a planet 745 00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:57,840 could record interact and even make 746 00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:58,799 contact 747 00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,520 with people at the right moment this 748 00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:03,039 artifact seems to be functioning in that 749 00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,600 way 750 00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:05,520 the information it provides includes 751 00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,279 several events that i think 752 00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,600 could potentially be validated the first 753 00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:11,679 being a huge craft 754 00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:14,559 in orbit destroyed hundreds of thousands 755 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,440 of years ago 756 00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,520 now i'm thinking could that leave 757 00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:19,200 evidence i mean particularly 758 00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,520 in as much as we're told it's destroyed 759 00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:22,960 debris rains down 760 00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,440 onto the surface could that debris 761 00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:26,960 whether the test of time 762 00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,799 could there be some of it left and 763 00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,080 that's where i really 764 00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,320 began and i went looking through the 765 00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,000 literature thinking would we find some 766 00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:36,640 signs of melted crystalline debris 767 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:38,320 scattered somewhere 768 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:41,520 that might fit with this claim 769 00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:44,320 i half expected that to be a big no in 770 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:45,120 all honesty 771 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,200 with hundreds of thousands of years of 772 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,520 geological processes underway 773 00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,080 what's the chances but incredibly it 774 00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,919 turned out that there was a 100 year 775 00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:55,919 long mystery in science 776 00:28:02,950 --> 00:27:59,360 about a material called australitectite 777 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:02,960 which is largely silica is melted quartz 778 00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,320 at around 75 of the composition 779 00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,240 so straight away i'm thinking hey you 780 00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:09,679 know we've got a hit here 781 00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:12,399 in terms of the actual chemical makeup 782 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:14,399 the material is scattered across 783 00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:17,360 20 to 30 percent of the earth's surface 784 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,559 it's known that it 785 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:20,880 has to have come down from space due to 786 00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:21,600 the shape 787 00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:24,480 that it's actually in this button shape 788 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,520 i mean nasa 789 00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:28,320 have investigated this and they tell us 790 00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:29,679 the tech type buttons 791 00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,360 can only have formed in an event 792 00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,240 out in space that involved high energy 793 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,720 that melted the source body 794 00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,360 turned it into little droplets spheres 795 00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:43,120 of a crystalline glass 796 00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:45,200 which have then had secondary melting as 797 00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:46,880 they've entered the 798 00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:58,399 earth's atmosphere 799 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,080 now australia teptite is 800 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,240 really unique in the history of this 801 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:06,480 planet nor 4.5 billion years 802 00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,320 you know you you only find this 803 00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:09,600 particular 804 00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:13,440 composition once and and it's centered 805 00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:14,080 only on 806 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,520 one location australia now 807 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,600 for me of course that was immense 808 00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:21,200 because here i'm reading 809 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:23,520 in the account that the survivors of 810 00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:24,720 this event 811 00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,679 land in the southern part of australia 812 00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:29,840 and where do i find this debris 813 00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:32,000 scattered across the southern part of 814 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,919 australia the mystery around the 815 00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:35,840 australia centers on the fact that there 816 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:36,240 is 817 00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:43,039 there to be an 818 00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:45,360 impact event that's maybe thrown this 819 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:47,760 out and that you know this is their best 820 00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:49,840 guess at how the tech type formed now 821 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,039 there is no crater 822 00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:53,440 so decades of research have shown that 823 00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:54,960 it does not exist 824 00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,039 it should be in southeast asia if 825 00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:58,799 anywhere because there's chunks of 826 00:30:02,870 --> 00:29:59,840 debris and about 827 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:02,880 20 kilos in weight 828 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,320 the type of event we're talking about 829 00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,399 should leave a crater that's 830 00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:08,480 many many miles across i mean they're 831 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:10,000 looking at an object they think would 832 00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,880 have been around 833 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:13,200 a kilometer in diameter you know coming 834 00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:14,320 in at perhaps you know 835 00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,360 40 miles a second and slamming down into 836 00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:19,279 the planet throwing out this massive 837 00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,000 debris 838 00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:22,480 now the obvious thing you look for in an 839 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:23,360 event like that 840 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:25,110 is the crater 841 00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:33,669 now this raises another mystery because 842 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,480 earth 843 00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:37,200 is not considered massive enough to 844 00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:37,840 capture 845 00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:40,480 asteroids or comets and have them remain 846 00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:41,200 in orbit 847 00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,760 it's it's not considered possible in the 848 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,760 physical understanding of these objects 849 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,440 the speeds they're traveling at they 850 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,600 would either slam into the planet 851 00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,840 or they're accelerated past us by the 852 00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:53,840 gravity effects you know the 853 00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:56,799 earth itself they do not end up captured 854 00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,240 and circling in orbit 855 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:00,799 and yet nasa tell us again that this 856 00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:01,600 body 857 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,799 was in orbit before it exploded and that 858 00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:06,720 that's the only way to explain 859 00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:08,640 the shaping of these objects is that 860 00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,320 they are moving essentially 861 00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:12,159 horizontals are playing the planet in a 862 00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,360 decaying orbit 863 00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:15,679 and are gradually melted into these 864 00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:16,799 shapes that they have 865 00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:20,880 no other explanation so we have a very 866 00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:24,720 anomalous object made of around 75 to 80 867 00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:27,919 silica that just parks itself in orbit 868 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,640 no other asteroids or other bodies are 869 00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:32,640 known to contain more than 60 percent 870 00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:35,360 silica this is an entirely anomalous 871 00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,880 chemical makeup 872 00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,720 which fits very well with another claim 873 00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:40,640 in the alturinga story which is that 874 00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:43,679 this is a vast silica network housing a 875 00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:44,320 living 876 00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:48,080 self-aware ai bar silica networks are 877 00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:49,279 precisely 878 00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:52,080 what the leading edge thinkers in ai 879 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:52,960 believe 880 00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,760 we will create to house you know 881 00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,440 self-aware intelligence 882 00:32:01,990 --> 00:31:59,360 these these ai intelligences of the 883 00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,000 future and here we have the exact kind 884 00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:04,240 of material we'd expect for one 885 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:07,360 it's it was an absolute 886 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:10,559 total mesh with the book material this 887 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:11,519 download 888 00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:14,080 and the real world science in a way that 889 00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:15,360 i never 890 00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:18,799 imagined that i would find such 891 00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:21,360 conclusive evidence that this was a real 892 00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:22,640 event 893 00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,600 one of the second major claims in the in 894 00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:27,360 the material which was that 895 00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,919 five years after this craft is destroyed 896 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:30,880 in orbit 897 00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:33,440 that there is a a second arrival to this 898 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:34,080 planet 899 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:35,760 by a group of extraterrestrials that are 900 00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,000 connected with the craft that are 901 00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,159 allies who come here on a type of 902 00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:42,399 revenge mission and enforcement 903 00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:46,240 to tackle the the other group that have 904 00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:47,679 caused this that have attacked this 905 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:49,840 craft i'm thinking well 906 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:52,080 is it possible that an asteroid 907 00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:52,960 bombardment 908 00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,039 would have left some kind of signature 909 00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:57,120 we think so we know that we can detect 910 00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,360 impact events going back millions you 911 00:33:01,509 --> 00:33:01,120 know even billions of years sometimes if 912 00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,519 they're 913 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,120 significant enough i mean obviously we 914 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,760 have the famous case of the dinosaurs 915 00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:07,679 being eradicated by one of these 916 00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:10,960 major impacts i thought could it be that 917 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,399 there is something out there 918 00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,880 now this was a bit synchronous because 919 00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,240 as it turned out 920 00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,720 there really there was nothing in the in 921 00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,240 terms of the academic papers 922 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:23,039 there was no um peer-reviewed study that 923 00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,240 had gone through 924 00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,919 you know that pointed to this instead 925 00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:27,519 what i found was that just a couple of 926 00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:30,000 years before in 2015 927 00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,760 there had been a geological team 928 00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:34,080 investigating 929 00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,200 this the signs of a multi-directional 930 00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:39,760 asteroid bombardment of our planet and 931 00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,640 the dates they'd come up with was 780 932 00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:43,679 000 years ago 933 00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:46,720 now if i had looked for this information 934 00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:49,919 just a few years ago i would have found 935 00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,559 nothing 936 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:52,559 it wouldn't have been there that only at 937 00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,000 this time 938 00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,640 could somebody have validated that claim 939 00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:58,000 and keep in mind 940 00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:01,600 the original material is from 1994 941 00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:04,880 so there's no way even at the time when 942 00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:05,279 it was 943 00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,440 that anyone could have validated this 944 00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,919 so years later just the right moment i'm 945 00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,200 prompted to look 946 00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,159 and the the discoveries are in process 947 00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:18,159 you now know that there were impacts 948 00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:19,040 across 949 00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:22,879 america africa tasmania 950 00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,800 all around the world in fact a major one 951 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:27,359 down in antarctica an object the size 952 00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:28,879 the same size as the one 953 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,119 the chicks love crater which is believed 954 00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:33,280 to have eradicated the dinosaurs 955 00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,359 an object on that scale impacted 956 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:38,159 antarctica 780 000 years ago 957 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,760 leaving a crater that is 200 miles by 958 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:43,200 200 miles 959 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:46,480 i mean we are talking about an enormous 960 00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,280 event 961 00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:49,599 and at the other sites we have major 962 00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:51,679 impacts that have left you know scarring 963 00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:52,560 across these 964 00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,599 each of these continents precisely in 965 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,560 the way 966 00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:58,560 this downloaded information has told us 967 00:35:03,190 --> 00:34:59,599 that this is 968 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,200 many objects that bombard separately 969 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,760 at different points on the planet now 970 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,520 how does this come about this 971 00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:10,240 anomalous bombardment this is not a 972 00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,359 natural event 973 00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:13,280 and in fact if you look at the academic 974 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,839 studies they don't even try to explain 975 00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:17,520 this they have no explanation for this 976 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,480 bombardment 977 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:21,040 why are these separate asteroids all 978 00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:22,560 suddenly coming in from different 979 00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,359 directions 980 00:35:26,910 --> 00:35:25,119 at the same moment and hitting this 981 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:26,920 planet an 982 00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,829 one of one of the understandings that 983 00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:37,599 eventually came to me as i 984 00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:40,560 dug deeper into this was that this 985 00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:41,680 asteroid 986 00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,960 impact event was not unconnected to the 987 00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,560 magnetic reversal 988 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,160 there's there's now a number of 989 00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:50,400 scientists that are positing that it was 990 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:52,079 in fact the impacts 991 00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:55,119 that caused the geomagnetic reversal was 992 00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,440 it an 993 00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,320 attempt to cause a reversal now i don't 994 00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,320 know that but certainly it seems that 995 00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:02,640 these major impacts may well have not 996 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:04,800 only caused a cataclysm in terms of 997 00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,760 tsunamis earthquakes firestorms you know 998 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:09,680 a nuclear winter these are all things 999 00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:11,680 that are hypothesized that it caused 1000 00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:14,640 but it now has also induced a magnetic 1001 00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,950 having validated that there was not only 1002 00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:26,720 a large crystalline object 1003 00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:29,440 in orbit just as this information had 1004 00:36:33,230 --> 00:36:30,560 stated 1005 00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:33,240 and having found that there was indeed a 1006 00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:34,400 multi-directional 1007 00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,880 asteroid bombardment as the information 1008 00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:37,920 had stated 1009 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:40,000 i now was in a position where i had to 1010 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,320 look at perhaps the most controversial 1011 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,240 and most important claim 1012 00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,240 in this information which is of course 1013 00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,079 that homo sapiens 1014 00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:51,119 are tied to this story that these these 1015 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:51,839 beings this 1016 00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:54,880 intelligence you know goes on 1017 00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:57,119 to make a modification in the early 1018 00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:59,200 hominins that are living on the planet 1019 00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:00,240 at this time 1020 00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:03,040 could this also be true now i was in a 1021 00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,640 fortunate position having already 1022 00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:06,640 written a book the forgotten exodus 1023 00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:09,760 we tackled human evolution the early 1024 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,800 migrations 1025 00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,720 and the story of these archaic hominins 1026 00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:14,880 i was aware that there were anomalies in 1027 00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:16,160 that narrative already 1028 00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,599 and had quite a familiarity with the 1029 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,839 academic literature so 1030 00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,520 one of the things i already knew was 1031 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:23,839 that in just the last few years 1032 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:26,640 that story has majorly shifted that 1033 00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:27,440 instead of 1034 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:30,320 positing that around 400 to 500 000 1035 00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,040 years ago 1036 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:33,359 homo sapiens begin to diverge from other 1037 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:34,320 hominins 1038 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:37,599 it's been pushed back to around 750 to 1039 00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:38,400 800 1040 00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:40,560 000 and bang in the middle of that of 1041 00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:43,599 course is 780 000 years ago 1042 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,000 so this is quite astonishing in that 1043 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,880 again if it had been a few years before 1044 00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,119 and this information had come to me i 1045 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:53,040 would not have been able to validate 1046 00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,440 this 1047 00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,079 in the same way that the asteroid strike 1048 00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:58,079 wouldn't have been able to be validated 1049 00:38:02,950 --> 00:37:59,680 that this is cutting edge 1050 00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:02,960 information now one of the reasons why 1051 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:05,599 we know that homo sapiens begins to 1052 00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:08,160 diverge 780 000 years ago is 1053 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,240 is a couple of different finds one being 1054 00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:12,480 the sima de la resort site in spain 1055 00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:13,520 where we now have 1056 00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:16,240 the oldest dna ever recovered from a 1057 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:17,599 hominin species 1058 00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:19,920 now these are actually archaic ancestors 1059 00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:21,280 of neanderthals 1060 00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:23,599 and the fears that these told us is that 1061 00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:25,599 the split between neanderthals and 1062 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:28,560 modern humans occurred far earlier than 1063 00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:29,520 was 1064 00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:31,520 previously understood and he's pushed 1065 00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:33,599 those dates way way back 1066 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,280 that they were able to see that these 1067 00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,520 sima hominins were much closer to 1068 00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,359 neanderthals than expected 1069 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:41,920 and in fact that the only way to explain 1070 00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,040 this depth 1071 00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:45,119 and the divergent scene in the genome 1072 00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,320 there was to 1073 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,960 push our our own divergence from their 1074 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:50,480 ancestors back to around 1075 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,320 750 000 or more years ago now that's not 1076 00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:57,040 the only thing with the denisovan genome 1077 00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:58,160 being fully mapped 1078 00:39:01,829 --> 00:39:00,079 quite recently they found that the 1079 00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,839 denisovan ancestors 1080 00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,839 they seemed to begin to diverge away 1081 00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:06,000 from those direct ancestors of modern 1082 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:06,880 humans 1083 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:09,440 somewhere in the region of 800 000 years 1084 00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:10,160 ago 1085 00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:13,040 again bolstering this day i could go 1086 00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,960 through various other studies there's 1087 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,119 there are some oldest research papers 1088 00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:19,760 which suggested that some specific 1089 00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,680 um specific genes and specific proteins 1090 00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:26,000 in the past have already pointed to a 1091 00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,040 divergence event 1092 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,599 around 700 to 800 thousand years ago so 1093 00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:31,200 this isn't entirely new 1094 00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,680 we also know that in the fossil record 1095 00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:35,440 there is an anomalous event 1096 00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:38,240 occurring just after 800 000 years ago 1097 00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:39,599 with the human brain 1098 00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,760 suddenly going into overdrive that we 1099 00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:43,760 have this massive expansion in the 1100 00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,040 cranial capacity 1101 00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:47,359 which is long been known due to the 1102 00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:48,480 fossil fines 1103 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:50,320 but nobody could explain it of course 1104 00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:52,720 now we have the genetic data coming in 1105 00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:53,440 saying that 1106 00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,839 hey there's some changes underway at the 1107 00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,040 genomic level 1108 00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,920 which go towards explaining this sudden 1109 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:01,040 unprecedented 1110 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:03,920 and anomalous brain size expansion in 1111 00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,200 our ancestors 1112 00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:13,520 as i sort of drilled down into this 1113 00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:14,640 genetics 1114 00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,880 part of the story i was really 1115 00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,119 astonished to find that there were 1116 00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:21,680 some studies that hugely pointed to 1117 00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:23,839 anomalous events at the beginning of our 1118 00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:25,760 homo sapiens story 1119 00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:28,640 now one of these is the fusion of 1120 00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,839 chromosome 2 1121 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:32,000 which is usually obviously is assumed to 1122 00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,760 be a natural event 1123 00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:35,280 but when you look at that and i've had a 1124 00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:37,119 biologist friend of mine look closely at 1125 00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:38,000 this and say that 1126 00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:40,160 well there's there's not really strong 1127 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:41,680 support for the idea that 1128 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:44,160 it's natural that's assumed because 1129 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,760 nobody's gonna go there 1130 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:48,000 with the idea that it could be unnatural 1131 00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:48,960 that in fact 1132 00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:51,200 there's a lot of anomalies to do with 1133 00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:52,560 the way that this is not the way that 1134 00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,079 it's happened in the genome 1135 00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,240 but the fact that it goes on to be 1136 00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:58,079 present in every living human that 1137 00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,359 rather than having a 1138 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:01,760 a singular strange mutation that fades 1139 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,720 away 1140 00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,440 it becomes completely universal to our 1141 00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,680 species there's a total replacement 1142 00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:10,160 of all of the 48 chromosome humans with 1143 00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,599 those with 46. 1144 00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,920 it's also inferred that this fusion must 1145 00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,880 have brought 1146 00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,599 incredible benefits for those who had it 1147 00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:19,280 this is part of the explanation for 1148 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:22,560 why it became so widespread also that it 1149 00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:24,720 had to happen in a small 1150 00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:27,200 isolated population for it to become 1151 00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:28,160 persistent 1152 00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:31,599 now that's precisely meshes with a test 1153 00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:32,160 group 1154 00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:35,839 a small isolated population suddenly has 1155 00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:39,680 these miraculous beneficial changes 1156 00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,319 that are so beneficial they persist 1157 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:44,240 working against the forces of evolution 1158 00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:45,760 which usually remove 1159 00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,119 these kind of fusion events because 1160 00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,359 they're normally usually negative 1161 00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:52,079 and instead we see this really strange 1162 00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:55,359 replacement of all humans 1163 00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,359 this also fits with what's known as 1164 00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,280 crispr gene drives 1165 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:00,960 now if anyone's familiar with gene 1166 00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:03,520 drives this is a cutting-edge technology 1167 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,359 where we've realized that you can 1168 00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:07,440 you can change the way in which 1169 00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:08,720 information is is 1170 00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,400 inherited and have different groups 1171 00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,280 mixing but yet the traits you want them 1172 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,280 to have will be passed on to everyone 1173 00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,720 instead of having the information from 1174 00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:21,200 two parents only one parent's 1175 00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:21,920 information 1176 00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:24,800 is passed on and you overwrite a species 1177 00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:26,720 now this is a technology that can 1178 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,680 literally make species extinct or 1179 00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,680 completely replace 1180 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,920 the existing group now that's exactly 1181 00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,040 what we see happen 1182 00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,200 in the early stages of homo sapiens 1183 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:39,440 which is itself a red flag 1184 00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,990 it's not just chromosome 2. we find that 1185 00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,680 there are a slew of changes that have 1186 00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:52,720 been titled 1187 00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,280 human accelerated regions these human 1188 00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:57,119 accelerated regions 1189 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:00,640 are in fact by definition areas of the 1190 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:01,280 code 1191 00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,400 that have gone through rapid evolution 1192 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,720 accelerated evolution what is the 1193 00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,079 explanation for this 1194 00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:10,319 in fact we find there isn't one that the 1195 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,079 academics that have discovered this say 1196 00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,800 that having crunched the numbers 1197 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,800 they believe that there is around about 1198 00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,800 a zero percent chance 1199 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,960 of the changes they're seeing having 1200 00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:22,240 happened by any 1201 00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:25,280 understood evolutionary mechanisms 1202 00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:28,640 now what do these areas do crucially 1203 00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:31,440 they happen to be in areas of non-coding 1204 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,640 dna 1205 00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,960 known as essentially switches that 1206 00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:36,640 control the expression 1207 00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:40,160 of genes whether to turn them on or off 1208 00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:43,200 to make them express stronger express 1209 00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,839 less and if you know how to change those 1210 00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:47,040 areas of code 1211 00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,800 you can completely redesign an organism 1212 00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,160 and that's where they're finding these 1213 00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,079 anomalies hundreds of them 1214 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,000 most of them are to do with brain 1215 00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,160 development now that circles back around 1216 00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:00,000 to those anomalous changes we see in the 1217 00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,880 fossil record 1218 00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,960 where the human brain goes through this 1219 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,480 bizarre acceleration 1220 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:06,560 in not only size but structure and 1221 00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,680 complexity 1222 00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,520 right at that point just after 800 000 1223 00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:11,520 years ago and now we find there are 1224 00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:13,119 hundreds of anomalies 1225 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:16,240 in non-coding dna that would 1226 00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,000 really explain a lot of what we're 1227 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,720 seeing and the academics are telling us 1228 00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:22,800 we've got nothing when it comes to an 1229 00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,000 explanation 1230 00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:27,119 i even went to the the leading person in 1231 00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:28,079 that field 1232 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,079 and a question was put to them about my 1233 00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,400 work and she said well i don't think 1234 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,160 it's connected to aliens and gave 1235 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:37,119 gave her understanding what it was and 1236 00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:38,240 in fact 1237 00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,480 her argument has already been dismissed 1238 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:42,319 i found a more recent paper 1239 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:45,440 on the subject we said that no her her 1240 00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:47,040 understanding of it is wrong 1241 00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,040 and there is no explanation to this day 1242 00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,520 and this is a 2017 paper 1243 00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:53,599 which says that you know nothing has 1244 00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,560 come up yet 1245 00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,480 that explains these changes and that's 1246 00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,560 the most recent paper on the topic 1247 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:00,720 so these are completely unexplained 1248 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,000 other than by 1249 00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,960 an intelligence at work modifying the 1250 00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,920 genome 1251 00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:07,920 and these are the signatures of that 1252 00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:17,190 for me one of the fascinating elements 1253 00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:18,720 of the timing 1254 00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:22,000 of this contact with this intelligence 1255 00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:24,880 and what seems to be a cosmic nudge to 1256 00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:26,319 look at this information 1257 00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,680 is that we have to consider that it's 1258 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:29,920 only now that we really understand 1259 00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,280 genetic engineering 1260 00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:33,680 that we are on the cusp of a major 1261 00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,200 revolution in that field with these 1262 00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:38,160 crispr technologies and gene drives and 1263 00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:39,200 essentially 1264 00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:41,119 we may well be at the end of homo 1265 00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,560 sapiens with the beginning of something 1266 00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:44,960 like a homo sapiens 2.0 1267 00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:47,359 where we can now change humans at the 1268 00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:48,560 genomic level 1269 00:45:51,230 --> 00:45:49,760 you know and start to incorporate 1270 00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:51,240 technologies from you know 1271 00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,480 nanotechnologies 1272 00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:54,720 cybernetics you know all of these things 1273 00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:55,520 are 1274 00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:59,760 of nudged to look at a story that is 1275 00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,480 telling us 1276 00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:02,480 hey all of these things have happened 1277 00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:04,240 before and will happen again 1278 00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,240 that you know it's the cycle is almost 1279 00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:08,240 completing and that we're again we're 1280 00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:09,359 also 1281 00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,359 seeing a lot of talk about looking for 1282 00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:13,520 asteroid threats and bombardments that 1283 00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,160 subject 1284 00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:17,200 is big right now and of course the fact 1285 00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:18,560 that we 1286 00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:21,680 just now can really appreciate 1287 00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:24,560 the science behind these revelations is 1288 00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,920 quite extraordinary 1289 00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,599 that we're being nudged to look at it 1290 00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:29,359 you know is that deliberate that's why 1291 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,640 we need to know 1292 00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,640 hey this is how it happened in the first 1293 00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:34,319 place that we now 1294 00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:37,280 have those capabilities we have the the 1295 00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:38,480 fire of the gods 1296 00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,470 one of the surprises for me in the in 1297 00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:50,560 the narrative of this information 1298 00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:54,000 is that we can see that assuming that 1299 00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,040 you know this is 1300 00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,720 sufficient validation for people to say 1301 00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:58,160 that there's an intelligence at work 1302 00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,440 what does it tell us about this 1303 00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:01,040 intelligence and advanced 1304 00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,720 entities that are out there in space 1305 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:04,319 well one of the things it points to is 1306 00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:04,720 that 1307 00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:09,040 becoming hugely advanced 1308 00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:12,160 that you are totally peaceful and and no 1309 00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:13,839 longer have to worry about 1310 00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,400 any problems we sometimes feel that you 1311 00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:18,240 know in a star trek future 1312 00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,079 all ideas of conflict and competition 1313 00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,200 may be removed and yet here we're seeing 1314 00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:27,119 entities that can move around through 1315 00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,839 wormholes that they can modify species 1316 00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:31,280 they can do all this but yet they still 1317 00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,000 come into 1318 00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,280 conflicts they still have weapon systems 1319 00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:37,440 they still have to think about fight 1320 00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:39,920 flight flee 1321 00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,880 and not as far removed in those basic 1322 00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,559 levels as we might have expected 1323 00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:46,800 as many new age thinkers would theorize 1324 00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:48,880 that there is only peace out there 1325 00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:50,960 is it okay to play god should we be 1326 00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,079 going into the genome 1327 00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:54,319 and modifying species should they have 1328 00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:55,119 done it 1329 00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:57,599 what might we expect of cosmic 1330 00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:58,640 intelligences 1331 00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:01,040 and is it anything like the ideas that